MMO Dads

MMO Dads | Elitist Talk and Labelling in Gaming

I’m not big into chatting, if I’m honest. Even less if it’s “small talk”, it’s just how I’m made. But it can be fun to listen in sometimes. No, I’m not meaning phone-tapping or other creepy things, but via in-game chat. In LOTRO I’m referring to “world chat” – the “any player anywhere in Middle-earth” channel. The other day I discovered I’m part of a new social classification: MMO Dads.

Apparently, that’s not a good thing.

What was the Context of the ‘MMO Dads’ Reference?

There have been a fair few changes to LOTRO in recent weeks and months. As well as new content, cosmetics packs and festival rewards, work has continued on systems. The LOTRO classes are undergoing changes and the biggest of these relates to the Lore-master redesign. Which, it basically is.

As people chatted the Lore-master (LM) changesExternal Link (Opens in New Window/Tab) were discussed. They’ve divided opinion – change always does. I hate change, some thrive on it and others just roll with it. Change very rarely happens without a reaction. It was here that the term MMO Dads came up.

The argument was that those resisting change – or more vocal about it – were those “MMO Dads” who, effectively, clung to how they’ve always done things.

I’ll mention, but pass over the fact that “MMO Mums” (or Moms for you Americans) weren’t referred to, even though I am a father but mostly play female characters.

An Elf Lore-Master in LOTRO

Elitism Is Not New

Elitism is not exactly a new trait in humans. In its original positive sense, the elites were the best – warriors, hunters, leaders etc. Later the term evolved to include the richest or those holding positions of influence. The “upper echelons”. A term that used to be a badge of pride though became a dividing factor like the “Haves and Have-nots”, or worse – believing one race is the elite one.

Bi-directional Elitism

Because they’re young, young people have often looked down on older people, and because they have experience and knowledge, older people have looked down on younger people.

Where my wife was born there’s an “underdog superiority complex” – a psychology that by being “downtrodden” you’re actually better or superior to those who live away from “real people” and “real jobs” (meaning manual or physical ones). People in investment banking, or government advisory roles, may see manual labour as a lesser thing.

Elitism In Gaming Is Not New, Either

So, clearly being an MMO Dad isn’t a compliment. And as such, it has to be from someone who isn’t a parent. Not many openly criticise themselves, though I am one of them. Using the term says that non-MMO Dads are better than gaming fathers because they’re open to change, regardless of how that impacts others.

It almost felt like the Dark Ages of l33ts and n00bs. And if you still use those terms, either go back to your cave and stay there, or come out of the cave and talk like a real person. Heck, talk like a fictional one.

You Played for the First Time at Some Time, Yes?

Being better than others at something is normal. It’s just a matter of experience, or natural skill, or the ability to learn. But no one is better than everyone at everything. Our beautiful l33ts from before were clearly never n00bs (*tongue in cheek*). Maybe they joined gaming when we embraced new players as “newbies” and helped them to get into the game. Much like “Sprouts” are in FFXIV.

Yes I’m an MMO Dad, But I Wasn’t Always

Shockingly, there is a time in everyone’s life when they’re not a gamer or a parent! I admit, that to today’s gamers, streamers and e-sports professionals, I’m old.

I’m not really (I’m in the middle), but I will say that having had some level of non-normal pain, coupled with depression for thirty years makes you feel old.

Thanks for that Fibromyalgia.

JKII to SWTOR

I started my online gaming journey with Jedi Knight IIExternal Link (Opens in New Window/Tab) (Jedi Outcast).

The core game was solo, but there was an online multi-player which allowed you to socialise with others and duel them. I found a great guild (if that’s what they were called), that helped me to fight better.

After a long break, where I did game but mostly offline, a friend introduced me to Star Wars: the Old Republic. That was my first MMO and I still wasn’t a father. It took wifey and I ages to become parents, not all of it out of choice.

SWTOR to LOTRO

It was only about a year before NJ’s birth that I started playing LOTRO.

Yep, if not for a love of Star Wars, I wouldn’t have become a LOTRO MMO player. Between the start and the end, life isn’t linear!

So, I’ve been gaming more years than I’ve been a father. That’s not a statement of pride, just historical fact.


Being an MMO Dad Doesn’t Make Me Superior

I‘m not one to look down on others. If you have a reasoned opinion, then I respect that. I also have an inferiority complex – everyone is better than me. The thing is that respect works in two directions – or at least it should.

I have years of experience in MMOs. But don’t ask me about PvP! I socialise in MMOs, but don’t ask me for advice on group content or raids. I’ve only raided in FFXIV, and that was usually for the story or until I got an outfit piece I wanted. My experience doesn’t make me superior to a newbie. It makes me more useful to a newbie. Even if that “use” is to refer them to someplace better for their advice!

My main FFXIV Character, here with a mining pick equipped, glancing seriously at something off-camera.

MMO Dads Have Gone Through Changes

I suspect those that use the term “MMO Dads” forget that some players (not me) have been around since LOTRO was in beta. That’s 17-18 years ago! Change is not new to those kind of players. They’ve seen the world evolve (offline and online), their races and classes reworked, new areas added, players come and go, benefits they used to pay for become free.

Some of those may be parents now. Some of them may not be.

But they have a right to voice their opposition to change (respectfully), just as you have a right to voice your support of it (respectfully).

I’ve Kept Playing LOTRO Despite Changes

I’ve gone through at least three or four avatar updates. Here’s my main character when I first created her versus today. I kept her in the same outfit to make the comparison easier. While combat changes are unnerving, avatar updates can detach my connection to my characters because I “head canon” or “internally role-play”. I haven’t found all changes easy to adjust to.

Everyone deals with change differently.


Change Resistence/Apprehension Is Normal

FFXIV Shot of a character wielding a large dagger while the words Level Up are questioned. (For anyone reading the alt descriptions this is from the Moogle Post questline that starts with Errant Epistles).

Many factors can make someone open or closed to change in general. When change affects something we hold valuable in our life, then an initial push-back is only natural. The “open to change” folks of today, may well become the “change sucks” crowd tomorrow.

Sometimes the way a person is wired makes them apprehensive of change, either genetically or due to a condition or illness. My neurodivergent daughter nearly broke down after school yesterday because the teachers had rearranged the classroom and she didn’t know where anything was. I struggle when I need to visit people out of my local area, because it involves a break in my routine.

Your Reaction to Change Is Normal (whichever it is!)

It is normal for some people to struggle with change. It is also normal for people not to. The first group need not yell at the first for not caring enough, and the second group should not be critical of the first for not immediately embracing change. Give each other space.

Why You Might Resist Change

PsychologyTodayExternal Link (Opens in New Window/Tab) gives four key reasons people resist change. They apply to gaming too:

  1. Avoiding Uncertainty:
    We prefer to know what is happening. When change is coming, or arriving, we have a new uncertainty to deal with.
  2. You Don’t Want to Feel Incompetant:
    “You’re ruining my class I’ve played since beta” is another way of saying “I am no longer able to play this as well as before”. Change might mean relearning a class from scratch again, or adjusting your rotation etc.
  3. You don’t feel like others are controlling you:
    Despite the fact that LOTRO is created by Standing Stone Games, some players may feel it is “their” game, “their” class, “their” raid/instance. When we’re reminded that SSG can make whatever choices fit with their business model, we feel we are being controlled. Don’t forget SSG is ultimately “controlled” by shareholders at some level or other. That’s business.
  4. Change is Uncomfortable and Takes Effort:
    This is linked to point two: I will have to look at my Lore-master soon. I haven’t done that since the class changes, because it’s going to take time and effort to relearn it. Gamers sometimes seem to want “spoon feeding” – “give me the game on my terms”, rather than the one actually on offer.

TL;DR Think Before Labelling Anyone as an MMO Dad, or anything else

Everyone is entitled to have an opinion. And everyone does. Depending on where you are in the world, you may be free to voice that opinion. But how you do that makes a difference. I’m a Dad who plays MMOs, not just simply a labelled “MMO Dad” in a derogatory way.

“MMO Kids these days!”. Don’t you hate the way older people sometimes refer to young people? You should. Then don’t do it the other way either – think before you label someone. Having an opinion may be a right. Being respected is something we all have to earn.


About the Author

Fibro Jedi
Fibro Jedi

I have been playing MMOs for about ten years and began writing guides to The Lord of the Rings Online in 2017. I've only been creating content about Final Fantasy XIV since 2022, but I am glad for the mix. My current games include LOTRO, FFXIV and the occasional Palia session too.

LOTRO Posts | FFXIV Posts | Please support me on Ko-Fi Donate Coffee | Author Page


New Related Posts


Updated Related Posts